Tuesday, January 11, 2011

"His Bare Ass was Hanging Out"

8 Comments:

Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

"Sgt. Patrick Webb advised caution when nabbing a suspect..."The Criminal Code provides for a certain level of use of force to protect property, but anyone using force ... has to be cognizant of the fact they could be charged," he said."

WTF is the matter with the cops, judges in the Canadian legal system?! Warning the victim not to protect himself and his property too vigorously?! Sheesh!

Even in America's wacko coastal libtard enclaves, the authorities have no problem with people reasonably using force, even deadly force, to protect family, home and property. And it's the citizen-on-defense, NOT the criminal, who gets the benefit of the doubt.

Canada has some big problems with crime and the problem starts with this mindset of the cops, judges, et. al. in the system.

In Anglophone Democracy, the original concepts in the Common Law included that it was a core duty of government -servants of We the People- to maintain a legal system and law enforcement, for the defense and welfare of We the People. Mindful that law enforcement cannot be everywhere at all times, We the People have the retained right of self-defense and defense of property.

As Sir Robert Peel, founder of the professional London Police Service put it, "The police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."

Interwoven in all this is that nowhere in Anglophone traditional Common Law or any Anglophone Constitutions I'm aware of have Citizens relinquished the right of self-defense, defense of family and property.

January 11, 2011 8:01 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

I know. I know. I don't blame the cops. They don't write the rules. Judges, on the other hand....

January 11, 2011 8:16 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

Try reading these for more insanity from the Canadian legal system:

http://stubblejumpingredneck.blogspot.com/search?q=grocer

January 11, 2011 8:24 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

What really pisses me off is most of these cases involve little shop owners who invariably are immigrants willing to bust their asses, working long, long hours with no holidays just to get a foothold in their adopted country. They are the salt of the earth, as far as I'm concerned and they should be commended for doing what most fat-assed lazy Canadians won't do.

January 11, 2011 8:34 pm  
Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

"The Chinatown grocer charged for detaining a thief has previously kept suspected shoplifters in his store for hours while waiting for police to arrive, he told a court Thursday."

I'm tempted to say he should have phoned in an "officer down" and the cops would have been there in a few minutes. But then, they'd just arrest him, for false alarms or something.

Re these small shopkeepers, it's the same here in the Great Satan. When I lived in Calif. and here in Pa, I've seen many small businesspeople-shopowners, restaurant owners, laundry owners, etc.-of Chinese, Indian extraction. Hard-working, honest, decent folks, unlike the dirtbag thieves, burglars, shoplifters, etc. that sometimes prey on them.

January 12, 2011 12:23 pm  
Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

By sheer coincidence, I just ran across this story from Florida. Reading between the lines, we have an injured citizen protecting himself from a 18 year old punk, planning on a mugging robbery, that the police probably already had a record on. In this situation, the citizen-victim acted reasonably in using deadly force in self-defence, what all Anglo nations' shared Common Law would have deemed, in more rational times, "Justifiable Homicide":

Fla. jogger won't be charged for shooting teen
Foxnews.com, January 12, 2011


TAMPA, Fla. – A pistol-packing jogger in Florida won't be charged for shooting and killing a teenager who attacked him during a midnight run.

Prosecutors said Tuesday they are convinced Thomas Baker acted in self defense when he fired eight shots at 18-year-old Carlos Mustelier near Tampa in November .

Prosecutors say Florida's "stand-your-ground" law was a factor in their decision. The law, passed in 2005, gives people the right to use deadly force as long as they "reasonably believe" it is necessary to stop another person from hurting them.

Baker told police he reached for his gun when the teen punched him in the face. Baker has a concealed weapons permit.

The teen was hit four times in the chest, back and buttocks. He died at the scene.

January 12, 2011 12:45 pm  
Blogger SnoopyTheGoon said...

You just wait, Louise, till your Human Right Tribunal gets into the act. These good farmers will wish they provided that thief with a dinner and underwear (seeing as he didn't have any).

Speaking of that other (jogger) story: 8 bullets seems to be a bit too exhaustive treatment. Was this guy some kind of a Godzilla?

January 14, 2011 7:46 am  
Blogger Louise said...

But only four of them hit the target, and even at that it wasn't close enough to the bullseye. Guy must have been a poor shot. A bullet in the butt may be em-bare-ass-ing, but not fatal.

January 14, 2011 9:02 am  

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