Saturday, December 11, 2010

Yet Another Mass Grave

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Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

One mass grave finding particularly struck me. In 2004, one of the many mass graves found was one in the Kurdish area of northern Iraq, with several hundred bodies. The bodies were all women and children, each with a bullet hole in the skull.

But that doesn't matter! No amount of mass graves overcomes the Left's self-righteous, morally blind mantra "No WMDs found!"

December 12, 2010 2:16 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

I don't know if I documented it somewhere, but I remember a few years ago the count was something like 260 or 280 mass graves had up to that time been discovered.

I think I remember the one you are talking about, babies still in their mothers' arms, shot through the head. Then there's the story of regular cemeteries filled up with people who had been killed for opposing the Ba'athist Regime, so the death toll is far greater than from the wars, gassings, and mass murders.

December 12, 2010 3:54 pm  
Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

I also remember reading a detailed article about the numbers of Iraqis murdered by the Saddam Regime, from his becoming President in 1979 to his ouster in 2003. Can't remember where I read it & can't find the article now. Pretty grisly reading.

Anyway, the bottom line is a pretty strongly documented total averaging approx. 250-300 Iraqis PER WEEK, for a quarter century of Saddam Regime rule.

These included Kurd and Shia rebels, plus in many cases their families; Sunni men suspected of disloyalty or some sort of major transgression, plus in many cases their families; the Kurds killed in Operation al-Anfal, the co-ordinated series of WMD atrocities against the Kurds; the Shia mass murders in the post Gulf War rebellion. There was also a good number of everyday Iraqis over the quarter century of Saddam rule who somehow managed to anger or offend the wrong person, someone high in the regime or with connections to someone high in the regime.

This figure doesn't count the war dead on both sides in the 1980's Iran-Iraq War that Saddam started. There at estimates of approx. 500,000 total Iraqi casualties; 1,000,000 Iranian casualties. There's many thousands of Iranians still hospitalized or being treated as out-patients for the aftereffects of Iraqi gas attacks. Same for the Kurdish victims of Operation al-Anfal.

Using a median figure of 275 from the above-referenced estimated average, that totals approx 100,100 Iraqis NOT murdered by the Saddam Regime since the Coalition liberation of Iraq. What can't be quantified is how many people from Iraq and neighboring countries are not war dead, because the Saddam Regime was overthrown before it could start any more wars.

The only people lamenting the demise of sociopathic Saddam and his blood-soaked regime are Sunni thugs formerly attached to the gravy train, some neighboring dictatorships terrified to have a democracy next door...and of course a goodly number of Western "progressive" "thinkers" who agree with the above that the US and Coalition are the Villains in the Iraq War of Liberation.

December 13, 2010 8:14 pm  
Blogger Dave in Pa. said...

I also remember reading a detailed article about the numbers of Iraqis murdered by the Saddam Regime, from his becoming President in 1979 to his ouster in 2003. Can't remember where I read it & can't find the article now. Pretty grisly reading.

Anyway, the bottom line is a pretty strongly documented total averaging approx. 250-300 Iraqis PER WEEK, for a quarter century of Saddam Regime rule.

These included Kurd and Shia rebels, plus in many cases their families; Sunni men suspected of disloyalty or some sort of major transgression, plus in many cases their families; the Kurds killed in Operation al-Anfal, the co-ordinated series of WMD atrocities against the Kurds; the Shia mass murders in the post Gulf War rebellion. There was also a good number of everyday Iraqis over the quarter century of Saddam rule who somehow managed to anger or offend the wrong person, someone high in the regime or with connections to someone high in the regime.

This figure doesn't count the war dead on both sides in the 1980's Iran-Iraq War that Saddam started. There at estimates of approx. 500,000 total Iraqi casualties; 1,000,000 Iranian casualties. There's many thousands of Iranians still hospitalized or being treated as out-patients for the aftereffects of Iraqi gas attacks. Same for the Kurdish victims of Operation al-Anfal.

Using a median figure of 275 from the above-referenced estimated average, that totals approx 100,100 Iraqis NOT murdered by the Saddam Regime since the Coalition liberation of Iraq. What can't be quantified is how many people from Iraq and neighboring countries are not war dead, because the Saddam Regime was overthrown before it could start any more wars.

The only people lamenting the demise of sociopathic Saddam and his blood-soaked regime are Sunni thugs formerly attached to the gravy train, some neighboring dictatorships terrified to have a democracy next door...and of course a goodly number of Western "progressive" "thinkers" who agree with the above that the US and Coalition are the Villains in the Iraq War of Liberation.

December 13, 2010 8:15 pm  

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