Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Troubled with Islam?

I generally don't go here. I was married to a Muslim, a half-assed one, mind you, for fourteen years. I have two children whose blood is 50% Iraqi-Arab. But sometimes the news just becomes too overt to ignore. What a monumental task the moderate Muslims of the world have ahead of them! Are they even working on it? Would anybody notice if they are? Sure occasionally you hear of some brave soul, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, but then we have assholes like Avi Lewis completely denying her her voice.

Look at this. On International Human Rights Day! Iran Arrests 20 Student Leaders Behind Sunday's Protest

And this: Dad charged after daughter killed in clash over hijab

I wonder, would stoning be an appropriate punishment in Canada for a father who does this to his poor sweet girl? God rest her soul. At least Canadian Muslim groups have spoken out against what this man did.

Anyway. One more little treat on International Human Rights Day. A round up of news brought to you by the Religion of Peace.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of the Western Muslim establishment is comprised of Islamist groups claiming to be moderates. True moderate Muslims reject Islamic supremacy and Sharia; embrace religious equality and democracy.

What is a moderate Muslim? According to a dictionary, a moderate is a person who is opposed to radical or extreme views or measures, especially in politics or religion. Yet, majority of the public seem to be struggling with the definition of a moderate Muslim. Perhaps we can make this task easier by defining a radical Muslim and then defining the moderate as an opposite of the radical.

Muslims Against Sharia compiled a list of issues that differentiate moderate Muslims from Islamic radicals. Hopefully you can help us grow this list.
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/ 2008/01/what-is-moderate-muslim.html

Poll: Who is a moderate Muslim?
http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/ 2008/01/poll-who-is-moderate-muslim.html

January 03, 2008 12:18 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

Regrettable though it is, I must say that it is hard to trust any organization claiming to be moderate muslims. I wish you the best of luck. One of your greatest challenges will be capturing the attention of the media and actually creating a climate where folks like me can trust your legitimacy.

January 03, 2008 2:41 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't trust us, who are you gonna trust? These people?

January 03, 2008 10:41 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

Have you or a representative of your organization contacted the Rabbi personally? I hope so. Some highly visible "arm-in-arm" with Christian and Jewish leaders would be really effective, if you ask me.

January 04, 2008 5:07 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are trying. Not much luck so far.

January 04, 2008 1:07 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

I noticed you have some very high profile names on the right side of your blog. There are some names on it, like Zuhdi Jasser, Naser Khader and Amir Taheri, which I have every reason to trust and no reason to mistrust. Are these individuals members of your organization, or have they at least endorsed your aims and agenda? If so, is there some way you can confirm that?

I also note that Canadian journalist Salim Mansur is a signatory to one of the items in your blog. I am a great fan of his.

You might be interested in reading some of my entries in the now inactive blog Search, beginning May, 2006 and working back.

My position on moderate Muslims has been that fear has kept all to many of them silent.

And by the way, your inclusion of the Canadian Muslim Union on the list of moderate Muslims is a big mistake. I just did a cruise of some of their statements and articles. They express the classic "blame everyone else but ourselves" nonsense. It's dripping with the very thing that your organization should work against - a complete inability or unwillingness to engage in introspection. The "other guy", especially the US, is single handedly responsible for all the misery in the world, as if no one else has any motives or agency of their own. BLAAH!!!!

January 04, 2008 2:19 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Are these individuals members of your organization, or have they at least endorsed your aims and agenda?"

No, and there is a good chance they are not even aware of our existence.

"My position on moderate Muslims has been that fear has kept all to many of them silent."

That and unwillingness of the governments and the media to admit that Western Muslim establishments are run by Islamists. When Islamists are embraced, Moderates are ignored by default.

"inclusion of the Canadian Muslim Union on the list of moderate Muslims is a big mistake"

That's embarrassing. I have no idea how it got on that list. Now it is properly placed on the list of Islamists claiming to be moderates.

Would you like to become a contributor to our blog? If so, please email to info@reformislam.org and put "BLOG ACCESS" in the title.

January 04, 2008 5:57 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

I'm quite intrigued ... so far. You should know that I am not Muslim. I am a barely lukewarm, non-practicing Christian. I would still want to know who you are and who you represent. Some of the names, like I said, are people I admire, but I haven't seen any statement on your blog where you actually list names of your contributers or of people who have endorsed your cause. If you could do that clearly stating who belongs to your group, I might reconsider. However, I do think that this is a battle that, for many reasons, must be fought by Muslims.

BTW, your statement about the MSM paying attention only to the Islamist organizations is an interesting point. Don't get me going on how much i hate the MSM, or I'll never stop. They strive to give the most sensationalist news and groups the biggest and best publicity, creating false impressions and empowering the wrong people.

If you have some qualms about revealing too much about yourself on a blog comment, please feel free to email me at: oldweesie@sasktel.net

If you are legit, I'll eventually figure it out, just by the way you speak.

January 04, 2008 6:16 pm  
Blogger Louise said...

By the way, I'm curious how you found my blog and this particular entry, since it's been superceded by several others already.

January 04, 2008 6:19 pm  

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